“They Outlawed Immunity”: Sally Fallon Morell on Raw Milk, USDA Marxism, and the War on Real Food

Raw milk wasn’t banned for safety—it was banned to protect monopolies. In this interview, Sally Fallon Morell traces how pasteurization laws, price controls, and USDA policy wiped out small dairies—while states like North Dakota are now fighting back.

In 1999, there were just 20 sources of raw milk listed online in America. Today, there are nearly 4,000. That didn’t happen by chance—it happened because one woman refused to give up.

Sally Fallon Morell is not chasing trends or political points. She’s the president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, a grandmother, and a guiding voice in the modern food freedom movement. While USDA bureaucrats fed corporate lobbyists and Congress debated “dairy parity,” Fallon Morell quietly built a movement—one farm, one state, one gallon of raw milk at a time.

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Sally Fallon Morell and her book “Nourishing Traditions

And now that movement is winning.

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A Cartel Called “Safety”

Raw milk is legal to drink in every state, but access is another story. A handful allow retail sales, many restrict it to on-farm or herdshares, and some ban it outright. And since 1987, federal law has barred interstate sales entirely.

The justification? Public health.

The reality? Monopoly protection.

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Filling milk bottles, Briarcliff Farms, New York.
Keystone-Mast Collection, UCR/California Museum of Photography, University of California at Riverside

As Fallon Morell explains, the pasteurization push wasn’t just about tuberculosis—it was about forcing farmers into government co-ops.

In 1908, Chicago became the first city to mandate milk pasteurization—a reform often linked to the influence of John D. Rockefeller and his allies in public health. That same year, Nathan Straus began donating pasteurizers to urban centers—conveniently wiping out small dairies in the process.

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Source: USDA

By 1947, interstate raw milk sales were federally banned. Farmers lost their pricing power. Consolidators took over. And the average American forgot what real milk even tasted like. This imposed what Fallon Morell calls a “Marxist system” of dairies.

$1.50 Milk, Billion-Dollar Monopolies

Today’s dairy system is a broken illusion of abundance. In 2022, America had just 24,082 dairy farms, down 39% in five years—even though milk output rose due to mega-farm “efficiency” . The price paid to farmers? About $1.50 per gallon, nearly unchanged since World War II.

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Source: USDA

Meanwhile, CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations) suck up subsidies, no-interest loans, and grain programs. A 48,000-cow dairy exists in Texas. Pollution from these operations is estimated to cause billions in environmental damage .

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North Dumas Farms, a Texas mega-dairy permitted for 72,000 cows, uses tarp-covered manure lagoons to trap methane.
Source: Google Earth

And still, small farmers are told they must pasteurize—or perish.

Raw milk producers earn $5 to $25 per gallon, depending on region. But they’re treated like a public health threat—for selling milk with enzymes in it.

Ohio’s 1965 Freeze, North Dakota’s Breakout

Everyone frames raw milk debates as “safety vs. freedom.” But the real story is regulatory gridlock built in 1965.

In Ohio, raw milk advocates welcomed the introduction of HB 406 in 2025. But few realize the bill can’t function without repealing a silent killer: the licensing freeze on new raw milk labs and inspectors—a policy that dates back decades and was never lifted.

Without new infrastructure, small dairies will be forced to rely on the same industrial players they’re trying to escape. In other words: “legalization” becomes consolidation by another name.

North Dakota got it right. With HB 1131, effective June 2025, farms can now sell raw cream, butter, and kefir directly to consumers—expanding food freedom beyond milk itself.

4,000 Listings, One Website

From just 20 farms in 1999 to nearly 4,000 today, RealMilk.com has become the de facto roadmap for the raw milk underground. Fallon Morell grew it’s directory from just 20 listings in 1999 to nearly 4,000 today, creating the first nationwide map of raw milk sources.

The Dairy Cartel tried to erase them. They failed.

Consumers are tuning out the old scare stories. North Dakota and Montana have already passed laws expanding raw milk access, and other states are now debating similar bills. From TikTok feeds to RFK Jr.’s stump speeches, the call for food freedom is breaking through.

But the legacy media? Focused on fear.

Safety Theater vs. Sovereign Nutrition

Raw milk didn’t kill the American diet—processed milk did.

The same agencies that warn you about E. coli never mention what pasteurization strips away: enzymes, bioavailable vitamins, and immune-supporting fats.

This isn’t about safety anymore. It’s about who gets to decide what’s “safe”—you, or a system that’s made kids sick on skim for 40 years.

Legalize, Localize, Decentralize

The system is changing. But it’s not changing fast enough. What Sally Fallon Morell showed—what North Dakota proved—is that laws don’t change until people do.

So here’s the call:

  • Go to RealMilk.com and find your local farmer.
  • If you’re a rancher, list your beef on BeefMaps.com and join the movement.
  • If you’re in Ohio, demand full repeal of the licensing freeze behind HB 406.
  • And if you’re in New York, Nevada, or Hawaii—start your own rebellion.

Because this isn’t about milk anymore. It’s about our freedom to choose.

Explore the full directory of raw milk farms and state laws at RealMilk.com.

Watch the full interview with Sally and Breeauna Sagdal below here.

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